Lucy Goff talks LYMA Laser science and real stories with Cynthia Thurlow.
Nurse practitioner Cynthia Thurlow is the host of the Everyday Wellness podcast, where she interviews leaders in health and wellness each week. In a recent episode, Cynthia sat down with LYMA founder Lucy Goff to talk through the science behind the LYMA Laser, the LYMA Supplement and the ID² gut powder, and what customers are experiencing in practice. Their conversation covered the origin of the near-infrared laser technology, the clinical trial behind it, and how all LYMA products show up for people navigating weight loss, menopause and everyday skin and gut health concerns. Here's what they discussed.
A near-death experience sparked an idea
LYMA founder Lucy Goff didn't set out to make a life-changing Supplement. She told Cynthia Thurlow that, fourteen years ago, a case of mastitis after the birth of her daughter progressed into cellulitis and then septicemia, leading to six weeks in intensive care.
"Every day is just a new beginning, and if you don't fight for every day, you're never going to further your life to how you could be living it." Lucy Goff, LYMA founder
It was during her recovery that Lucy met longevity professor Paul Clayton, the scientist who would go on to discover the science behind the LYMA Supplement.
How cold laser technology works
Cynthia Thurlow asked Lucy to explain how the LYMA Laser actually works on the skin. Unlike most skin technologies, the LYMA Laser is engineered to run cold at the point of contact, even though the Laser itself starts out hot enough to mark a credit card before it passes through the device's cooling lenses. Read more about the science behind LYMA and how the technology was developed.
"The light goes all the way through the skin, through the muscle, and down into your bone without losing biological power. As it passes through each cell, it switches it into youth mode." Lucy Goff
A study was carried out by Imperial College London to test the effect. Researchers built a device identical to the LYMA Laser, but using LED light instead of laser, matched for wavelength and power, and applied both to human skin to compare the results.
"In the LYMA Laser device, 45 genes were expressed, and a longevity gene, SIRT1, was expressed six times. In the LED device, only one gene was affected, and it wasn't SIRT1."
Lucy Goff
The GLP-1 trade-off nobody warns you about
GLP-1 medications have helped millions of people lose significant weight, but few people are warned about what that rapid loss can do to the skin left behind. It was a trade-off Cynthia Thurlow wanted to unpack with Lucy Goff directly.
Given how many of her patients are now on GLP-1 medications, Cynthia asked Lucy whether LYMA customers were reporting changes in skin as a result of rapid weight loss. Lucy explained that two groups now make up much of LYMA Laser PRO's customer base: people recovering from surgery, and people managing the skin effects of significant weight loss.
"It really does help with skin elasticity, and also with the muscle that sits beneath it, which is really, really important."
Lucy Goff
Lucy describes the pattern that follows rapid weight loss as a kind of whack-a-mole: solve one problem, and another one shows up somewhere else.
"It affects you all over your body. You get rid of one problem, and then another one picks up. It's like that game when you're a child where you put one thing down and another pops up." Lucy Goff
Cynthia has seen the same trade-off play out publicly during awards season, watching people who were already lean end up looking, in her words, gone, emaciated or frail once more weight comes off.
"You can't pick and choose where you lose fat or volume." Cynthia Thurlow
It's exactly the gap the LYMA Laser is designed to help close: firmer, tighter-looking skin for the face and body, without needing to reverse the weight loss itself.
The belief that pain means it's working
Cynthia Thurlow named a belief a lot of people don't realize they're carrying: that a treatment has to hurt to be doing something.
"I have been conditioned to believe most of these treatments need to be painful to be effective."
Cynthia Thurlow
Lucy Goff says that belief isn't an accident. Most in-clinic and at-home treatments work by damaging the skin on purpose, then relying on the body's repair response to produce results.
"The whole cosmetic industry has been born on damaging your skin in order to stimulate collagen production through the repairing process. But repair mode is a very quick, disordered process. It creates scar tissue, not beautiful skin." Lucy Goff
The LYMA Laser was built to break that rule. It works cold, with no sensation at all, and doesn't rely on damaging the skin to work.
"Genuinely, sensationless." Lucy Goff
Skin changes during perimenopause and menopause
As a nurse practitioner who specializes in this stage of life, Cynthia Thurlow shared that women lose around 30% of their skin collagen in the first five years after menopause, as declining estrogen accelerates mitochondrial changes in skin cells.
Lucy has spoken openly about starting the LYMA Supplement at 45, as part of a broader routine through this stage of life that also includes regular conversations with her doctor about her hormones.
A Laser designed for every skin tone
Cynthia Thurlow raised a point she says matters to many of her patients: traditional heat-based lasers have historically carried a higher risk of hyperpigmentation and scarring for darker skin tones, which has excluded many people from clinic treatments altogether.
"Lasers have not historically been an inclusive technology, and that's why I'm so proud of this. It genuinely is for anyone, any gender, any skin tone, any stage of your life."
Lucy Goff
Supporting the body from the inside out
Cynthia Thurlow, who talks about gut health often on her podcast, asked Lucy about the role it plays in how skin looks and feels. Lucy explained why she moved from taking separate probiotics and prebiotics to ID², LYMA's gut health formulation. ID² combines one probiotic, alongside four prebiotics of different lengths designed to support every section of the colon by providing the essential nutrients and fibers that help feed it, a first in the world of gut health formulation. Modern diets typically contain a fraction of the fiber earlier generations ate.
"If your gut is working really well, your skin is going to be even more glowing."
Lucy Goff
The LYMA Supplement also includes Wellmune® Blend, which helps support the body's natural immune defenses.
No pain, no downtime, no excuses
Because the Laser is cold at the skin, there's no sensation during treatment, and no recovery time afterward, a contrast to the swelling and downtime associated with many in-clinic treatments.
"Knowing that you can have that level of effectiveness without downtime, and being able to do it at home on a daily basis, is really groundbreaking."
Cynthia Thurlow
More than a face treatment
Cynthia Thurlow also asked about using the Laser beyond the face. While the LYMA Laser is FDA-cleared for the treatment of facial wrinkles, customers use it across the face, neck, décolletage and body, including knees, inner arms and thighs, to help with the appearance of fine lines and skin laxity. Explore LYMA Journal for more real stories and skin science.
Lucy describes it as a kind of skin multi-tool for the whole body, wherever fine lines or a loss of firmness show up.
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*This statement has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
